then of course we have paul ryan and joe biden in their debate then the president and mitt romney the week after. >> historically when you look at these numbers, do you ever see a bounce as a result of the vice presidential debates. in joe biden vs. sarah palin. did it do anything. >> no but the mccain obama debates didn't change anything. wet the wall street meltdown before the debates. that was the defining event of the race and nothing moved after that. president obama was steadily ahead the last 40 days. vice presidential debates typically don't have much impact. the obama campaign you hope for a story line to get you away from talking about first presidential debate. >> scott rasmussen, we appreciate you giving us the first bite at that apple. thanks so much for showing us and obviously we'll talk to you a lot in the next 30 days. >> i look forward to it. >> he paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. that fallen navy seal being honored. >> a democratic lawmaker won't say the pledge of allegiance. she considers it a prayer. we'll talk to the politician to witnessed this ahead